Church in Society ( 2017-Oct )


Again, this is an area, I will rather not go.

Yet, it is one that stirs our conscience and thoughts.

And, that is reason enough to see what people are saying and why they are saying it.



We all have our own bias and depositions.

And, it is best to lay them bare ahead of time.

Most of my comments will be based on what I have heard from others prior to anything that I will cover in this post.

It is often useful to have some foundational predisposition as that lessens the opportunity to be swayed within each decision point.

Even better when commentators are not even speaking specifically on the new material.

Earlier Words

  1. Damon Thompson
    • Sometimes God places something in our heart, but unfortunately so much  of what has gone out in the Prophetic World was not undergirded in scripture
    • And, so I, Damon Thompson, need the foundation of Scripture
  2. Neil Ellis
    • This is a Church of matured faith
    • You have been preaching, but you were fearful of how the preaching will be accepted
    • Sometimes the Devil magnifies things and makes them appear more than they really are
    • Sometimes as a pastor what makes us press even though there is “Hell on the Outside” is that we are satisfied that we have the confidence of the people inside
    • Can the Lord trust you, and can the Bishop/Leadership depend on you?
    • Free your Spirit, but challenge your people
    • A faith that has not been tested, is a faith that can not be trusted
  3. Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
    • Sotomayor was asked to explain her remarks from a 2001 speech in which she said she agreed that “there is no objective stance but only a series of perspectives — no neutrality, no escape from choice in judging.”  She told the committee that, in every case, the two opposing parties view the facts from vastly different perspectives. “You can’t just throw up your hands and say I’m not going to rule,” she said. There is a choice in judging, which means “you have to rule.”


Here are some of the videos that I will later comment on.

  1. Paula White
    • Trump’s spiritual adviser: More devout than you…
      Donald Trump’s spiritual adviser, televangelist Paula White, spoke to CNN’s Erin Burnett in August about the Republican presidential nominee’s faith and the phone call that kicked off their friendship.
      Channel :- CNN
      Published On :- 2016-Oct-20th
    • Inauguration
      • Meet The Woman Who Many Call President Elect Donald Trump’s Spiritual Adviser | NBC Nightly News
        Critics have slammed her as a charlatan, but in a rare interview with NBC’s Anne Thompson, Paula White defends her message and gives insight into the president-elect’s beliefs.
        Channel :- NBC News
        Published On :- 2017-Jan-19th
    • Jim Baker
      • Two Corinthians’ Gaffe Was ‘A Setup
        • RWW News: Paula White Says That Trump’s ‘Two Corinthians’ Gaffe Was ‘A Setup’
          Published On :- 2017-August-23th
      • Opposition to God
        • RWW News: Paula White Says Opposition To President Trump Is Opposition To God
          Published On :- 2017-August-21st
  2. Pastor Jamal Bryant
    • Pastor Jamal Bryant – The problem with Paula White…
      Published On :- 2017-August-25th
  3. Roland Martin
    • Roland Martin To Paula White: Be A Prophetic Voice And Don’t Just Be A Profitable Voice
      Roland Martin rips Pastor Paula White for her partisan comments about Donald Trump: Be a prophetic voice and don’t just be a profitable voice.
      Published On :- 2017-August-23th



Seated Under

Those in leadership do not always get to take a day off.

Not only does what they think matter, but also how they got there.

I have grown from listening in person or via youtube to the people listed above.

And, that makes me forever grateful.

Influencing Capital

The further we grow, the more influencing capital we personally have and have access to.

After long and hard battles our role will be examined; especially if our role is seen to have moved the needle towards an unexpected end.

Unfortunately it is not just our choice that is examined, but the totality of our live.

Circumference of Relationships

Relationships often covers so much space.

And, some of those spaces overlap and are not necessarily disjointed.

And, so even within a body, for instance Faith community, uniformity does not necessarily translate to conformity.

People sometimes reach different conclusions and they should be free to do so.

This is more so where there are personal relationships with those that are being discussed.


In Essentials Unity, In Nonessentials Liberty, In All Things Charity

Philip Schaff, the distinguished nineteenth-century church historian, calls the saying in our title “the watchword of Christian peacemakers” (History of the Christian Church, vol. 7, p. 650). Often attributed to great theologians such as Augustine, it comes from an otherwise undistinguished German Lutheran theologian of the early seventeenth century, Rupertus Meldenius. The phrase occurs in a tract on Christian unity written (circa 1627) during the Thirty Years War (1618–1648), a bloody time in European history in which religious tensions played a significant role.


Sola Scriptura

  1. Laws of Social Responsibility
    If ever you take your neighbor’s cloak in pledge, you shall return it to him before the sun goes down, for that is his only covering, and it is his cloak for his body; in what else shall he sleep? And if he cries to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate.
    You shall not curse God, nor curse a ruler of your people. ( Exodus 22:27-28 )
  2. Paul Before the Sanhedrin
    • But those standing nearby said, “How dare you insult the high priest of God!”
      “Brothers, Paul replied, “I was not aware that he was the high priest, for it is written: ‘Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people.’”
      ( Acts 23:4-5 )
  3. David, Saul, Jonathan, & Mephibosheth
    • And Mephibosheth the son of Saul came down to meet the king. He had neither taken care of his feet nor trimmed his beard nor washed his clothes, from the day the king departed until the day he came back in safety. ( 2nd Samuel 19:24 )
    • He answered, “My lord, O king, my servant deceived me, for your servant said to him, ‘I will saddle a donkey for myself, that I may ride on it and go with the king.’ For your servant is lame. ( 2nd Samuel 19:26 )
    • He has slandered your servant to my lord the king. But my lord the king is like the angel of God; do therefore what seems good to you. ( 2nd Samuel 19:27 )
    • For all my father’s house were but men doomed to death before my lord the king, but you set your servant among those who eat at your table. What further right have I, then, to cry to the king?” ( 2nd Samuel 19:28 )
    • And the king said to him, “Why speak any more of your affairs? I have decided: you and Ziba shall divide the land.” ( 2nd Samuel 19:29 )
    • Mephibosheth said to the king, “Let him even take it all, since my lord the king has come safely to his own house.” ( 2nd Samuel 19:30 )


In summary I find myself always returning to a couple of words :-

  1. Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad
    • Allah’s hand of protection is with the maintenance of unity, you should beware of division.
    • The one isolated from the group is a prey to Satan, just as the one isolated from the flock is a prey to the wolves
    • You can not base a spiritual life on suspiciousness, cursing and allocating blame.
  2. Abraham Lincoln
    • I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me seemed insufficient for that day.”


Love never fails … for we know in part and we prophesy in part.

Church in Society – Politicization of Religion – 2016/Oct


There is an increasing politicization of religion.

In years past I have listened to a couple of voices that talk about the interplay of Religion, Politics, and Culture.

Those voices includes:

  1. Jacob Prasch
    • He refers to a certain teaching he calls “Dominion Theology


In the weeks ahead, I will add other voices.


Here are some videos..

  1. Dr. Lance Wallnau
    • Jim Bakker Show
      • Trump: God’s Chaos Candidate (with Dr. Lance Wallnau)
        On Jim Bakker Show
        Published On: 2016-10-22
        Added On: 2016-10-22
      • Two Election Choices: Soros or Cyrus (With Dr. Lance Wallnau)
        Join Zach Drew and Sasha Volz as they interview Dr. Lance Wallnau on his new book 
        Published On: 2016-10-22
        Added On: 2016-10-22
    • Dr. Lance Wallnau DVD
      • Dr. Lance Wallnau, speaker convention 2016 Full Gospel Business Men’s Fellowship America, SAT 8 PM
        Published On:- 2014-Aug-24
        Added on:- 2016-Oct-23
    • Ask with Dr. Brown
      • An Interview with Lance Wallnau on “God’s Chaos Candidate.”
        Interview with Dr. Brown
        Published On: 2012-Oct-20
        Added On : 2016-Oct-22
    • Lance Wallnau – Trump’s Latest (October 24, 2016)
      • Published On : 2016-Oct-24
        Added On :- 2016-Oct-25
    • Dr Lance Wallnau interview with Patricia King!  (October 24, 2016)
      • Published On : 2016-Oct-27
        Added On : 2016-Oct-27
    • Lance Wallnau – “R” rated election commentary… not for faint of heart (November 6, 2016)
      • Published On : 2016-11-07
        Added On : 2016-11-07
    • Seven Mountain Strategy
    • Seven Mountain Strategy
  2. Mike Thompson
    • Donald Trump: Mike Thompson’s Heavenly Vision
      Mike shares a vision he received from the Lord on April 7. It’s about Donald Trump. What does the 2016 Presidential Election have to do with Revival in America?
      What about the political spirits of Jezebel and Pharisee? What are God’s prayer strategies and instructions?
      Published On :- Apr 12, 2016

    • Are YOU Being Buffeted? A Vision! Donald Trump & the Body of Christ
      • Mike shares another heavenly vision: The enemy’s attempt to ‘sift’ Donald Trump and the Body of Christ, at this pivotal point in history. What are the 5 main tactics the enemy uses to ‘buffet’ believers?
        Learn the keys to maintaining your focus and staying on assignment, even in tumultuous times.
        Published On: 2016-Oct-3rd
    • Effective Spiritual Warfare – Will Donald Trump Win the Election?
      • Sunday, Oct 23, 2016. What is God’s will for this election? Las Vegas pastor Mike talks about different kinds of spiritual warfare — and ways believers can effectively use their authority in Christ.
        Choosing not to vote is the worst choice you can make! 
    • Mark Taylor
        • Published On :- 2016-Oct-24
          Added On :- 2016-Oct-29
      • ****DONALD TRUMP PROPHECY**** MARK TAYLOR prophesies
        • Published On :- 2016-Oct-13
          Donald Trump will abolish the 501 (c)3 tax exempt status for churches.
          Currently churches are tax exempt through the 501 c 3 non profit status. This status has acted as a government bribe that says churches don’t have to pay taxes but lose their rights of free speech. D trump met will 40 of Americas biggest pastors to discuss this problem. This will end.. Churches will pay taxes and will gain their voice back!!!


Dr. Lance Wallnau

Jim Bakker Show

Trump: God’s Chaos Candidate (with Dr. Lance Wallnau)

  1. God wake up Church
    1. Joel Olsen will not be picked
    2. Religious Spirit get into the Church
    3. Self absorbed and affluent
    4. Predators have gotten into this garden
    5. Christians have being UN-alarmed
  2. Seal being broken
    • Battle for Nations
  3. We want to separate ourselves from Politics, Arts, and Business
    • We want to separate ourselves
    • Pray at a distance
    • But, the calling of the great commission is not to “Pray yee unto all the world, but to go into all the world
    • We have to get into the systems that change the World
  4. But, we have get into the Culture
  5. Isaiah 45
    • I have anointed you though you have not known me
  6. Trump said
    • He started the Make America great again
    • And, during his journey he started to get close to the Church
  7. Where we are
    • Whether he has prayed or not does not matter to me
      • Whether he has prayed the same prayer I have prayed
    • Battle for Christian Civilization
  8. Mutual Affection
    • He loves Pentecostals
    • He does not know the difference between Evangelicals and Pentecostals
    • But, he loves the ones that are Spirit filled
    • Because those are the ones he can get excited about when they are talking



Isaiah 45