Spiritually Receivedth

 

Thanks for our time yesterday
A nice planned dinner at your favorite, Benihana

The table was set so well…

From the couple right besides with their young daughter
To the young couple that just moved here from Sweden after spending a couple of years in Denmark

 

And, the men sited on another table, that we chatted with as we waited on a packed dineout Saturday evening
I couldn’t help it, as they were decently dressed in matching European Apparel
Later find out they are were Irish Men

 

I know it is a good dinner when the complaints is not about the food itself
But, my old dented car that was waiting for us outside as we emptied the restaurant
You affectionately reminded me
how more than anything you will like for me to get a new one

 

I am so very sorry that Instagram and text messages had to ruin our evening for us

Took the charge for a 2 Star sleep in, it is the Valley.

 

 

As a boy couldn’t wait to get to the physical
But, passed on the holding and caressing thereafter
Ended up as far as I could on the other side of the bed

 

I know I should have been the first to say sorry on waking up this morning
Gave me an opportunity to say so when you reminded me that I had all night to hold you, as I returned for a return affair this morning

 

But, pride forever gets in the way
Shallow only see things from one side

 

If I was a masseuse, I would try to untie you in all the knotted knobs
But, never been good at taking time
And, so I raced to God to bail me out

 

As I prayed to see what I am dealing with
And, what walls and hallways I was permitted to
God reminded me it wasn’t really you
But, I that needed accepting

 

There are things we know
There are things we are given
But, unable to accept in the present Life we live

 

Those things that only prayer into his being
Into his presence can be availed to us

 

Thanks for allowing me to receive those things that are sometimes physically there,
yet can only be spiritually received

In some ways the one left holding the bag, is the one who hoped or gave the most.

Coincidentally it is same that has to hid for the shame of having giving up so much.

 

Gone so far, I am Monica
Came back in the morning hoping you did not notice

When things didn’t go my way
Raced to God with a list of all things that is wrong
Thanks goodness, he has a short list
Actually a one liner
Had my name on it

Read you came to him
And, you and he and have already worked it out
And, you already fessed to me, as well

So what does Johnny come lately get
Not a lot

I just sometimes wonder about these guys who get to have a long conversation with him
All I ever get is quick rebuke
And, told to go my way

 

Cornerstone Verses

Romans 4:6-8
just as David proclaims the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

“Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, whose sins are covered;
Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.”…

Psalm 32:1-2
Blessed is He who is Forgiven

How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered!
How blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit!…

Psalm 130:3-4
If You, LORD, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand?

But there is forgiveness with You, That You may be feared.…

… For with the LORD there is lovingkindness ( Psalm 130:7 )

 

Habakkuk 2:4
Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

 

Sermons

  1. #4 Romans by Chuck Missler
    • Videos
      • YouTube
        • Channel :- NarrowPathMatt714
          Published On :- 2014-August-17th
          Link

Kenneka Jenkins and Young African American Womanhood

Preface

I think it was Monday morning through Google News that I first became aware of the Kenneka Jenkins story.

 

Desperation

At face value there seems to be quite a bit lost in translating those early hours of “Innocence Lost” into community participation.

What does one do when a young adult goes missing.

Once someone is 18 they pretty much have a right to self determination.  They can simple say and do their Yeses and Noes.

They can stay gone and missing for a few days.

As I read it her mother woke up and went to the Hotel and asked for help once contacted by her friends and told they could not find her.

It appears she was told by the Hotel Clerks that can only do so much until she files a “Missing Person” report.

 

Womanhood

You could tell the mother loves her.

One could tell her Sister loves her.

I think there was a young man that stood with her mother, as well.

Sometimes during adolescence we try so very hard at holding on to those who love us.

But, more so, at navigating towards our own Identity and the Yeses that come within that.

Seemingly, it is the price of Womanhood.

 

How things look and how they are

Hair done, nails nailed

Face prettied, gowns worn

From the look of things sure and ready for anything

 

But, at nineteen she hardly knows the glasses and mirrors that covers the pond

Just because a river welcomes and receives sunlight does not mean it forever stood idly by

There is often so much washed in and washed away

 

 

Safe

It was a girlfriend’s birthday
And, so not much should go wrong
Take Mama’s Car
Check in and stay indoors with friends
Come back home to waiting family

 

Bitterness

The Psalmist wrote …

The heart knoweth his own bitterness; and a stranger doth not intermeddle with his joy

 

Time

Each time has its own stories, fables, and myths
Ours is just too much to keep to self
Sharing is caring
And, so I am thinking I will beam it on Facebook
Some come to watch, others to celebrate, and yet others to mourn

There is a little bit for everyone
Items for sale, yet they could be had for free

 

Weasel

Weasel away time
Weaseling away time, like we could have it back
Whistling away life
Like we could whistle the Spirit back in it

 

Courage

Mistakenly uncaring-ness for courage
Mistaken “Made up mind” for ineptness
Pride in “Standing our grounds” like it always been ours
A generation here, a generation there
It could go either way

 

War Within

In the middle of a chess game
Pieces always moving

Wale – Family Affair
Link
You see I gotta go to war

You too young and you don’t know what I’m fightin’ for
This is my Vietnam
You are my strength
And the reason that I’m going

 

You fooled me into thinking it was my turn
You fooled me into thinking half the table was mine
While you knew all along the table was a bit slanted
And, I had few and fewer pieces on it

Morning

It looked like it took all day
Seemingly it took all night
But, come morning
None of the pieces was mine after all

….
….

Car and phone returned to mums

At the very least the ones who loves me knows not to keep calling

Debt

Like in the song “Wildflower” sang by “Color Me Badd
Sincerely it sings about how

always paying, for a debt she never owes

No one else would sign up to pay it
So it rests on her
By morning, hopefully it had been fully paid
And, her Spirit can yield, and float featherless and wingless having yielded the weight of life

 

Between the Lines

Chuck Missler likes to say “the only barrier to the truth is assuming you have it“.

We steadily thinking we know and calling out our enemies.

But, Wallahi, yet sometimes things be more complicated.

See who is satisfied with you fucking up.

See who holds on to his best and shares your worst with the world

The worst in others is the easiest to share

 

Yea, Squeezed

Yea, finally here I am

Into the little refrigerator

Tried so hard

Trying so hard to create spaces between unbalanced relationships

Having to miss mine and others familiar habits

Out from getting squeezed and trapped in my past

Doing too much from ‘ving to be counted and forever pictured into my forever nightmare

 

Spirits

Spirits are beings and people too.

The Devil reads spirits.

Sign up to do same

Have quiet come to God moments and interludes

It takes time and getting used to

But, it is part of LIFE

And, what God wants to give you

 

See you in a Bit

Didn’t say bye as she is quiet not
But, hovers over, watching who say what
Who confessed to what
Who came by to say and face Final Respect 

 

Care

Kenneka, caring is the least we can do.
Though the world seems a little hardened after all that has happened, and is happening
Yet centuries ago, to steady our feets, someone muttered:

two sparrows going for a penny, yet not one of them falls to the ground outside of our father’s care“.

 

Videos

  1. Andrew Holmes
    • KENNEKA JENKINS LIVE UPDATE FROM ANDREW HOLMES
      Channel :- Mek & Jimmie
      Published On :- 2017-Sept-14th
      Link
  2. Chicago Tribune
    • Hotel Footages
      • On hotel video, Kenneka Jenkins last seen alive staggering through kitchen
        Published On :- 2017-Sept-14th
        Link

 

Listening

  1. Color Me Badd ( Tyrese )
  2. Carrie Underwood
    • Carrie Underwood – Don’t Forget To Remember Me
      Link
  3. Patty Loveless
    • Patty Loveless – How Can I Help You Say Goodbye
      Music Video from: Patty Loveless, Only What I Feel, 1993 Sony
      Link
  4. Phil Collins
    • Phil Collins – In the Air Tonight
      Link
  5. Pete Rock & CL Smooth
    • They Reminisce Over You
      FROM THE ALBUM “MECCA AND THE SOUL BROTHER” (1992).
      Link

 

Congregation of YHWH, Jerusalem

 

Background

The Church has taken on so many roles lately.

It is interesting to see which ones line up with those whom are called by God.

 

Videos

  1. Messianic Signs 2 The Suffering Messiah
    Video

 

Indepth

Messianic Signs 2 – The Suffering Messiah

How Messiah learns from Yahweh…


 

Passages

Isaiah 50 ( verses 4 thru 8 )

  1. The Lord God has given me
        the tongue of those who are taught,
    that I may know how to sustain with a word
        him who is weary. ( Isaiah 50-4a )
  2. Morning by morning he awakens;
        he awakens my ear
        to hear as those who are taught.  ( Isaiah 50-4b )
  3. The Lord God has opened my ear,
        and I was not rebellious;
        I turned not backward. ( Isaiah 50-5 )
  4. I gave my back to those who strike,
        and my cheeks to those who pull out the beard;
    I hid not my face
        from disgrace and spitting. ( Isaiah 50-6 )
  5. But the Lord God helps me;
        therefore I have not been disgraced;  ( Isaiah 50-7 )
  6. He who vindicates me is near.
    Who will contend with me?
        Let us stand up together.
    Who is my adversary?
        Let him come near to me.  ( Isaiah 50-8 )
  7. Who among you fears the Lord
    and obeys the voice of his servant?  ( Isaiah 50-10 )
  8. Behold, all you who kindle a fire,
        who equip yourselves with burning torches!
    Walk by the light of your fire,
        and by the torches that you have kindled!
    This you have from my hand:
        you shall lie down in torment.  ( Isaiah 50-11 )

Luke 2:49-51

  1. And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?”
    And they did not understand the saying that he spoke to them.
    And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and was submissive to them.
    And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart ( Luke 2 49-51)

 

2nd Timothy 3:2

  1. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy2nd Timothy 3:2 )

 

Qumran – Dead Sea Scrolls
Christ’s Atonement

  1. Suffering Messiah
    • .. his Wisdom [will be great.] He will make atonement for all the children of his generation. He will be sent to all the sons of
    • his [generation]. His word shall be as the word of Heaven and his teaching shall be according to the will of God. His eternal sun shall burn brilliantly.
    • The fire shall be kindled in all the corners of the earth. Upon the Darkness it will shine. Then the Darkness will pass away
    • [from] the earth and the deep Darkness from the dry land. They will speak many words against him. There will be many [lie].
    • They will invent stories about him. They will say shameful things about him. He will overthrow his evil generation
    • and there will be [great wrath]. When he arises there will be Lying and violence, and the people will wander astray [in] his days and be confounded.

Philippians 2:1-4
Christ’s Example of Humility

  1. So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy,
    complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
    Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others ( Philippians 2:1-4)

Isaiah 53
Suffering Messiah

  1. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
    yet he opened not his mouth;
    like a lamb that is led to the slaughter,
    and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent,
    so he opened not his mouth.By oppression and judgment he was taken away;
    and as for his generation, who considered
    that he was cut off out of the land of the living,
    stricken for the transgression of my people?
    ( Isaiah 53:7-8 )
  2. when his soul makes an offering for guilt,
    he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days;
    the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.  ( Isaiah 53:10 )
  3. And makes intercession for the transgressors. ( Isaiah 53:12 )

 

John 17
The High Priestly Prayer

 

  1. Link
    I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word,
    that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one,
    I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.”  ( John 17:20-24 )

Summary

Learning teaches Messiah Patience, Obedience, and faithfulness – Congregation of YHWH, Jerusalem.

Whom not to learn from

  1. Your favorite prosperity preacher
  2. The show guy on TV or YouTube
    • Hawking DoomsDay food
    • Conspiracy Theory chaser
    • Calling out everybody else
    • Head far from covered, “hulling curses on everyone else

 

What not to learn

There are foundational and directly applicable words in the Bible and so these are not areas that we can pretend the Bible is silent on:

  1. …not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter presuming to be from us and alleging that the day of the Lord has already come.
    Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed.… ( 2 Thessalonians 2:2 )
  2. No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven — the Son of Man. ( John 3:13 )
  3. Dominion Theology
    • Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”  ( John 18:36 )
  4. Signs & Wonders
    • Observable Signs
      • When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs.
      • Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’   ( Luke 17:20 )
    • Do not go out or chase after them
      • Then He said to the disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it.
        People will tell you, ‘Look, there He is,’ or ‘- Here He is.’ Do not go out or chase after them.
        For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other, so will be the Son of Man in His day.… ( Luke 17:22 )

 

Discernment

  1. Here is a call for the endurance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
    ( Revelation 14:12 )
  2. Jesus Our Advocate
    …He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours alone, but also for the sins of the whole world.
    By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.
    If anyone says, “I know Him,” but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him.… ( 1st John 2:3 )
  3. We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers.
    The one who does not love remains in death.
    Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that eternal life does not reside in a murderer.… ( 1st John 3:14 )

 

Closing

I think sometimes people emphasis one aspect of their ministry over another.

But, it is obvious, easy, and in fact straightforward to inspect whether it is a ministry of Love.

Though it may seem out of place, but in the days, weeks, months and years ahead you will ask yourself how people love you… And, prayerfully you will find out, either way, which ways — Even if like Sam Smith,  you will have to find out through “man made teachings and boundaries” { Not in that way – Link }

Though we live in Laodicea, lukewarm still gets spitted out.

Wale, already responded when called out as one of the false prophets, “layaway effort” shouldn’t guise no one.

Bishop Neil C. Ellis

 

Sermons

  1. Eddie Long and New Birth Missionary Baptist Church
    • BEFORE THE SCANDAL Neil Ellis Prophecy for Eddie Long and New Birth Missionary Baptist Church
      Published On :- 2010-Oct-1st
      Link
  2. Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT
    • Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT — Pt 1 of 4
      • Published On :- 2010-July-10th
        Link
    • Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT — Pt 2 of 4
      • Published On :- 2010-July-10th
        Link
    • Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT — Pt 3 of 4
      • Published On :- 2010-July-16th
        Link
    • Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT — Pt 4 of 4
      • Published On :- 2010-July-16th
        Link
  3. Chosen & Targeted
    • Chosen & Targeted – Pt 1 of 3 – Bishop Neil C. Ellis – 30 Apr 2010
      • Published On :- 2010-May-1st
        Link
    • Chosen & Targeted – Pt 2 of 3 – Bishop Neil C. Ellis – 30 Apr 2010
      • Published On :- 2010-May-1st
        Link
    • Chosen & Targeted – Pt 3 of 3 – Bishop Neil C. Ellis – 30 Apr 2010
      • Published On :- 2010-May-1st
        Link

 

Quotes

  1. Chosen & Targeted
    • Chosen & Targeted – Pt 1 of 3
      • Once you know you are chosen and people can not take your fruits from you
        • You open yourself to destiny
        • Life Changes
        • But, it cannot be measured only from the good things that happen to you
          • It stretches you, as well
          • You will likely feel abandoned by God
  2. Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT
    • Chosen Abraham…Identify LOT — Pt 3 of 4
      • Sometimes you have to give up your rights to be right again

Timothy Keller – 2017/Summer

Teachings

  1. The One God uses
    • YouTube
      Published On :- 2017-August-10th
      Link
  2. TIM KELLER 2017 – An Immigrant’s Courage (POWERFUL SERMON 2017)
    • YouTube
      Published On :- 2017-July-4th
      Link
  3. A World of Idols | Timothy Keller
    Sermon :- Acts 17:16-34

    • YouTube
      Published On :- 2017-August-7th
      Link

 

Indepth

The One God Uses

  1. The calling of God
    • Divine Call
      • Being
      • Doing
  2. Apprentice of 18 years
  3. Prophetic of 30 years

 

An Immigrant’s Courage

  1. Deuteronomy 23
    • “No Ammonite or Moabite may enter the assembly of the Lord. Even to the tenth generation, none of them may enter the assembly of the Lord forever,
      because they did not meet you with bread and with water on the way, when you came out of Egypt, and because they hired against you Balaam the son of Beor from Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse you.
      But the Lord your God would not listen to Balaam; instead the Lord your God turned the curse into a blessing for you, because the Lord your God loved you.
      You shall not seek their peace or their prosperity all your days forever. ( Deuteronomy 23:3-6 )
    • “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. You shall not abhor an Egyptian, because you were a sojourner in his land.
      Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the Lord. ( Deuteronomy 23:7)
  2. Barren Woman
    • “Shout for joy, O barren one, you who have borne no child; Break forth into joyful shouting and cry aloud, you who have not travailed; For the sons of the desolate one will be more numerous Than the sons of the married woman,” says the LORD. ( Isaiah 54:1 )
    • …But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.
      For it is written: “Rejoice, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have never travailed; because more are the children of the desolate woman, than of her who has a husband.”
      Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of the promise.… ( Galatians 4:26-28 )

A World of Idols

  1. Gehazi’s Greed and Leprosy
    …Naaman said, “If not, please let your servant at least be given two mules’ load of earth; for your servant will no longer offer burnt offering nor will he sacrifice to other gods, but to the LORD.
    “In this matter may the LORD pardon your servant: when my master goes into the house of Rimmon to worship there, and he leans on my hand and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon, when I bow myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon your servant in this matter.”
    He said to him, “Go in peace.” So he departed from him some distance.… ( 2 Kings 5:17-19 )

Michael Ramsden – 2017

 

Videos

  1. MICHAEL RAMSDEN – Apologetics and Discipleship
    • MICHAEL RAMSDEN – Apologetics and Discipleship
      Filmed on 2 March 2017, at the open church leaders’ meeting at Nations Church, Dunedin during the Ravi Zacharias Dunedin Visit in 2017
      Published on :- 2017-May-14th

      Link
  2. The Peace Process
    • The Peace Process – Michael Ramsden
      We often lose our internal sense of peace not necessary because of things people have done against us but because of the things we have done to our selves
      Published on :- 2017-Jan-29th
      Link
  3.  Jonah
    • Michael Ramsden on Jonah 1: 1-16, “God speaks”
      “Do you really want to hear the word of the Lord? What if the word of the Lord tells you what you do not want to hear?” Hear Michael Ramsden’s Bible exposition on the first chapter of Jonah, given on day 1 of Presence 17, the IFES European Student Evangelism Conference.
      Published on :- 2017-May-25th
      Link
    • Michael Ramsden on Jonah 2: 1-11, “God does not give up”
      “God can turn around any situation.” Hear Michael Ramsden’s Bible exposition on the second chapter of Jonah, given on day 2 of Presence 17, the IFES European Student Evangelism Conference.
      Published on :- 2017-May-2nd
      Link
    • Michael Ramsden on Jonah 3:1-10 “A merciful God”
      “When we place the little we have into the hands of God; he can change the world.” Hear Michael Ramsden’s Bible exposition on the third chapter of Jonah, given on day 3 of Presence 17, the IFES European Student Evangelism Conference.
      Published on :- 2017-May-2nd
      Link
    • Michael Ramsden on Jonah 3:1-10 “A merciful God”
      “When we place the little we have into the hands of God; he can change the world.” Hear Michael Ramsden’s Bible exposition on the third chapter of Jonah, given on day 3 of Presence 17, the IFES European Student Evangelism Conference.
      Published on :- 2017-May-2nd
      Link

 

Indepth

MICHAEL RAMSDEN – Apologetics and Discipleship

  1. We can not serve two masters
    • If you try to have it both ways, you will find you have too much of God to enjoy the pleasures of the world. And, too much of the pleasures of the world in you to enjoy the pleasures of God
    • You gonna lose in both spectrums
  2. Apologetics
    • Appears 26 times in the scripture
    • Paul’s calling is to give a defense of the scripture
    • Philosophical arms of Theology, or the theology arm of philosophy
      • Neither can be scripturally sustained
  3. Festus Interrupts Paul’s Defense
    …King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”
    Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Can you persuade me in such a short time to become a Christian?”
    Short time or long,” Paul replied, “I wish to God that not only you but all who hear me this day may become what I am, except for these chains.”… ( Acts 26:28 )

    • Long discussion and what is the aim?
      • Agrippa
        • You want me to become a Christian
        • Do you really think you can convince me that quick?
      • Michael Ramsden
        • I do not want to get involved in that textual debate
  4. We need Christians in all the fields
    • Archaeology
  5. Difficult Questions
    • And, here are some of them
      • God allow suffering
      • Loving God Judge people
      • Why is he not more obvious
      • Wars and genocide in the Old Testament
      • Why are so many Christians Hypocrites
    • What joins all these questions together
      • They are all moral complaints against God’s character
  6. If those moral questions persists, it is difficult to give oneself over to a God whom we hold moral complaints
  7. To believe in Christ, you have to place your faith in him, but if you have doubt inclusive…
    • He is morally wrong
    • Fundamentally unjust
    • God has an inner conflict within himself
  8. Moral complaints about the Church
    • Hate people
    • Judge people
  9. Technical and Scientifical Complaints
    • Even those who hold technical complaints about God, dovetail into moral complaints
      • God is
        • A tyrant
        • Scientific critique

Biblical Hermeneutics – Does the idea of being “born again” have a root earlier than John/Peter (or Jesus)?

Question

In Stack Exchange – Biblical Hermeneutics, Soldarnal asked whether the idea of being “Born Again” has roots earlier than John 3:3, Jesus conversation with Nicodemus.

Link

 

Comment-er

ScottS, who has an “M.A. in Bible Exposition, Master of Divinity, and Ph.D. in Biblical Studies with a concentration in Systematic Theology” took a good swing at it and traced it back to Job.

Answer

Here is his proposed answer.

Nicodemus Should Have Known from the Old Testament

That the Old Testament is the source of the doctrine is confirmed by Christ Himself, for Nicodemus was supposed to have known these things. A slightly larger context helps see this:

Jn 3:3-10 (NKJV)

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again [or “born from above,” see below], he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh [i.e. of woman], and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit [i.e. of God]. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” 9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things?

Verse 10 clearly indicates that Christ expected that Nicodemus should be following Christ’s previous statements because he was one of those that taught Israel the scriptures. So the concept certainly is not “new” with Jesus, but rather one contained in Israel’s teachings. However, that does not mean it is found as directly stated in the OT as what Christ is stating here.

Clarifying Christ’s Meaning

So Christ introduces the “born again” concept to the discussion and links it to the Jewish expectation of the kingdom of God (v.3). The phrase “born again” in the Greek is two words.

The first word is that typically used for one’s birth, an aorist passive form of the verb γεννάω (gennáō), to “be born” (BDAG).

The second word is ἄνωθεν (ánōthen), translated in the NT only in John 3:3 and 3:7 as “again.” In most uses of the NT, it means “from above” (including Jn 3:31; also Jn 19:11; Jam 1:17, 3:15, 3:17) or “from the top” (Mt 27:51; Mk 15:38; Jn 19:23). Occasionally it is a time reference (in context), and so “from the first” or “from the beginning” (Act 26:5). The Luke 1:3 usage is debated whether it should be a time reference or a source from above reference. Gal 4:9 it is usually untranslated, considered to be intensifying the typical word for “again” in that passage, πάλιν (pálin).

It is (1) the fact that Christ does not use the common word for “again,” πάλιν, in John 3, and (2) his paralleling of flesh/Spirit as sources of the two births that leads me to believe the better translation in all of John 3 is that used in v.31, “from above.” The idea of “again” was probably favored because of Nicodemus’ reply in v.4, where a repetition of a natural birth is inquired about (but even so, such is to him obviously an incredulous idea.

So the “born from above” Christ is referring to is a Spiritual birth, as he clarified in vv.5-8.

Therefore, to look for what Christ was referring to in the OT, we need to find references that (1) refer to the insufficiency of the fleshly birth, and (2) the necessity of the spiritual birth, especially as relates to the kingdom of God.

The Need and Remedy are both Understood in Job

The idea that the first, natural birth from a woman is insufficient is expressed in the book of Job.

Job 15:14—“What is man, that he could be pure? And he who is born of a woman, that he could be righteous? (cf. Job 4:17)

Job 25:4—How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman?

Through these rhetorical questions, both righteousness and purity are understood to be impossible for one merely “born of a woman.”

But Elihu gives the answer to these questions in his statement to Job:

Job 33:23-30

23 “If there is a messenger for him, A mediator, one among a thousand, To show man His uprightness, 24 Then He is gracious to him, and says, ‘Deliver him from going down to the Pit; I have found a ransom’; 25 His flesh shall be young like a child’s, He shall return to the days of his youth26 He shall pray to God, and He will delight in him, He shall see His face with joy, For He restores to man His righteousness27 Then he looks at men and says, ‘I have sinned, and perverted what was right, And it did not profit me.’ 28 He will redeem his soul from going down to the Pit, And his life shall see the light29 Behold, God works all these things, twice, in fact, three times with a man, 30 To bring back his soul from the Pit, That he may be enlightened with the light of life.

Notice how the theme in this passage also parallels Christ’s later statement in John 3 about his death. He is the “mediator” to “show man His uprightness” of Job 33:23. He is the “ransom” found (v.24). Through this mediator, one is made new from above, both physically (flesh, v.25) and spiritually (righteousness, v.26), which newness comes by a person’s repentance (v.27) and is a redeeming from the spirit going down into the pit (i.e. grave, v.28), and a bringing of the flesh “back” from the grave (v.30).

Note the similar themes between Job 33 and John 3 (some of these connections are more direct, some more conceptual… I leave it for each one reading to decide how well matched conceptually the parallels I show are):

 

Job 33:23-30 John 3
A messenger v.23 Christ’s witness v.11, v.32-34
A mediator v.23 The Son from heaven as mediator v.13-16
Show uprightness v.23 Christ recognized as godly v.2, above all v.31
Deliverance from pit v.24 No perishing v.15, salvation v.17
Ransom v.24 Son is given v.16
Flesh like a child’s v.25 Born again v.3-8
Return to youth v.25 Born again v.3-8
Redeemer prays to God v.26 [no parallel found]
God delights in Redeemer v.26 God with Christ v.2, loves Son v.35
Restores righteousness v.26 Believer not condemned v.18
Admission of unrighteousness v.27 Belief is key v.15-16, 18, 33
Redemption from going into Pit v.28 Believers not perish, have eternal life v.15, 36
Redeemed one’s life sees light v.28 Doers of truth go to light v.21
Three works of God for man v.29 [no parallel found]*
Redemption back from the Pit v.30 [no parallel found]**
Enlightenment by life v.30 Doers of truth deeds enlightened v.21

 

 

  1. * Unless the three works are as messenger, mediator, and judge, all ideas seen in both Job and John
  2. **Resurrection is not forefront in John 3, but both the concept of eternal life (v.15-16, 36) and experiencing the kingdom (v.3, 5) have that as a background necessity.While exploring potential parallels between Job 33 and John 3 is intriguing, for the question here, the passage in Job (especially v.25) is speaking of a change like a new birth, and it ties to the resurrection from the grave (v.30). These ideas are tied more directly to the Spirit and kingdom in later revelation…

 

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