Loyal Rue – IN LIGHT OF SCIENCE, LET’S BEGIN ANEW WITH A ‘NOBLE LIE’, PHILOSOPHER SAYS

Loyal Rue

Loyal Rue is a philosopher who is questioning the Christian Worldview based on new revelations that is arising from Science.

I first became aware of Mr. Rue and his views based on listening to Ravi Zacharias and others from RZIM.

 

Noble Lie

George W. Cornell, AP religion writer
Published On 2001-Jan-20th
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Religious philosopher Loyal D. Rue says modern culture urgently needs a “noble lie” – a myth that links the moral teachings of religion with the scientific facts of life.

He said science “has eroded the plausibility of the Judeo-Christian myths. It has got into our heads and consciousness in such a way that the traditional myths can’t be swallowed.”The myths, he said, include archaic views of the universe; a presumption that humans are at the center of existence; and the stories of Jesus’ resurrection and of Moses bringing God’s Ten Commandments down from a mountain.

Dispel the myths of religion, he said, and all that is left is nihilism, which considers life and the universe meaningless.

“Nihilism is not something that can be argued away. . . . ,” he said. “I assume it’s true. But it is ultimately destructive,” a “monstrous truth.”

The myths served as a framework for religious teachings that brought about man’s betterment, Rue says. Without their “integration of cosmology and morality” – of cosmic facts with idealism – people will deny fixed standards and do whatever they choose, splintering society.

Or, they might embrace the “totalitarian option,” which relies on government to force humans to behave, he said.

Rue, 46, a professor of religion and philosophy at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa, presented his thesis at a recent symposium of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington.

A churchgoing but skeptical Lutheran, Rue suggests that we start all over, and create a new myth – a “noble lie” that squares with what is known scientifically, something that is convincing though it may not be factual.

What would that lie be? He doesn’t specify. “It remains for the artists, the poets, the novelists, the musicians, the filmmakers, the tricksters and the masters of illusion to winch us toward our salvation by seducing us into an embrace with a noble lie,” he told the scientific meeting.

Perhaps, he said in an interview, it is possible to rework, transpose and rephrase the Judeo-Christian tradition to make it plausible again.

In any case, the illusion must be “so imaginative and so compelling that it can’t be resisted,” so “beautiful and satisfying” that all would feel they have to accept it, he told the meeting.

“What I mean by the noble lie is one that deceives us, tricks us, compels us beyond self-interest, beyond ego, beyond family, nation, race . . . that will deceive us into the view that our moral discourse must serve the interests not only of ourselves and each other, but those of the earth as well.”

He said this lie would present a “universe that is infused with value. And such a universe is ultimately, I think, a great fiction. The universe just is. But a noble lie attributes objective value to it.”

He said “the great irony of our moment in history” is that what “we have most deeply feared” – being deceived – “is the ultimate source of our salvation from psychological and social chaos.”

He said “a good lie, a noble lie, is one that can’t be shown to be a lie by exposing it to a known truth or to science.”

“We need a kind of myth, a story, a vision of universality, that will get us pulling together, not just as Americans, but that will make us one, and give us solidarity of purpose,” he said.

“It must be a lie that inspires us to give up selfish interests in the service of noble ideals. . . . ” he said. “Without some kind of shared orientation, we can’t cooperate and can’t have a coherent society.”

“Without such lies we cannot live,” he said.

 

Interviews

  1. Loyal Rue pt 1: “Amythia” (interviewed by Barlow and Dowd)
    Loyal Rue, professor emeritus of Luther College in Decorah Iowa, wrote his first book, Amythia, in 1989. In 2014, Connie Barlow and Michael Dowd conversed with Loyal about his book and the malady of modernism, amythia.
    Date Published :- 2014-August-22nd
    Link

 

Indepth

Loyal Rue pt 1: “Amythia” (interviewed by Barlow and Dowd)

  1. Many religious people are seeing their Children leave the Church and what Amythia offers is one of the ways to accommodate what is attractive to these young people and what is unattractive in staying in traditional Churches; while also emphasizing that staying in Church and de-emphasis the problematic areas
  2. My thinking is changed about the Church
    • There has to be a new story, yet
      • It has to have continuity with the past
      • It has to be plausible
      • Intelligible, it could not be embarrassing to an Intelligent Being
  3. Tried to give an art to the new Story
    • The distinctiveness was the covenant
    • And, the plausibility is the Scientific World View
  4. But, the problem
    • Is that you have a myth that is embedded in a Cosmetology that is unbelievable
  5. And, the bigger problem became
    • How does one leave behind a cosmology that is becoming increasingly unbelievable
    • But, bring along the myth that was constructed upon the old cosmetology
  6. Customology together with humanity
  7. Michael Down – The Road Ahead
    • Take “BIG HISTORY” and trying to see how to “wrest” that destiny unto a naturalistic World View
      • Rather than wait to be saved by Cosmo Element
      • Taking hold of Saving the Planet
    • Covenant
      • Covenant becomes our covenant with Reality
    • Serving/Saving
      • Saving the Future
      • Serving becomes saving the Planet
    • If the Church will have any future
      • It will be the second coming of Christ
      • It will not be waiting on Christ
    • It will have to take responsibility
    • The Story of the Gospel is so hugely invested in Western Culture to just trash the whole thing
    • And, found that they just have to re-interpreted in a Science and in an Inspiring Way
  8. Loyal Rue
    • And, that is not too difficult to do
    • If you think about what the covenant is
    • If you think about the Hebraic Covenant
      • Most people will say that is the 616 laws
    • But, if you abstract it and say that it simply dictates if you follow these rules, you will live
    • And, so when will being that into the 21st Century we will see that it translates to our responsibility to
      • Global Warming – Take care of the environment
      • Address lack of Water
    • If Humanity accepts that and the Church accepts then we should be able to go the Churches and present it to them
    • Part of writing the book is an hope that the art will help us do that
    • Encourage Churchgoers to go back into their Church and evangelize this new message

 

Book

  1. Amythia – Crisis in the Natural History of Western Culture

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